Remove the Confederate Monument and flag from the Walton County Courthouse

Would you like my thoughts? Sometimes I wish I had the insensitivity of Poppaj and use words that would make your head spin

Insensitivity isn’t an adjective I would use to describe Poppaj. On the contrary, I think he has strong feelings about trying to remove hatred and bigotry from the country. He has a low tolerance for people that condone slavery and insurrection and he lets it be known.

My point is that we just can't call people and groups of people these hideous names just to feel superior in morality or anything else. It is more than insensitivity. It hides our own imperfections which is not honest. We can't improve ourselves like that. I think we all want the same things in life. We can have differences of opinions but we cross a line of believing that we are superior to another person when we use these names to describe people we do not even "know". It is dangerous in my opinion because it makes people even more tribal and that means conflict is going to happen. We have to start dealing with our own impatience and insensitivity before it is too late. None of us know everything especially me then we have our emotions to deal with. My wife points out than men are less sensitive than women more than a few times . A lot of things are just human nature. I am impatient as well as insensitive as well as selfish and on and on. We are more alike than we are different. If we are going to learn how not to hate then we have to start there...

You have this backwards. I have never claimed or insinuated I am superior to anyone. It is the bigots, racists, etc who feel superior by attempting to marginalize those they dislike simply because their skin is a different color, their faith is different, they look and speak differently, or who they chose to love doesn’t align with their personal beliefs.

You have this backwards. I have never claimed or insinuated I am superior to anyone. It is the bigots, racists, etc who feel superior by attempting to marginalize those they dislike simply because their skin is a different color, their faith is different, they look and speak differently, or who they chose to love doesn’t align with their personal beliefs.

If I've learned anything from the past several years, it's that white supremacy/Christian Nationalism persists in many ways. But America is not defined by that small minority. We are much bigger than that.

White Supremacist are a very small minority. Christian Nationalist are a much bigger percentage of the population and is what is driving much of this extreme movement toward the right. America has an identification crisis. Who are we? What do we want? Do we want to hate or do we want to live and let live?

I see them as the same. But definitely a minority. One with some influence on today's political environment. They will wane once again. But it's up to us to stand up, be informed, use our voices and protect democracy.

I see them as the same. But definitely a minority. One with some influence on today's political environment. They will wane once again. But it's up to us to stand up, be informed, use our voices and protect democracy.

White Supremacist are a very small minority. Christian Nationalist are a much bigger percentage of the population and is what is driving much of this extreme movement toward the right. America has an identification crisis. Who are we? What do we want? Do we want to hate or do we want to live and let live?

What about Southerners who can show that their families did not hold slaves, yet their properties, cities, towns, were invaded by federal soldiers? To them, the flag represents their country, their heritage.

Do their views matter? Or are the only valid viewpoints are those that take a narrow view of the flag and try and it use it as a modern day hammer to shame people and try and make them feel guilty for something they had zero to do with?

What is the opposite of a "Christian Nationalist"? I assume from your comment the opposite would better for America?

What groups do you see as hate groups?

Sorry but no. Flags and monuments represent racism and oppression in today's world. Whether you like it or not. That's the way it is and not that difficult to recognize and accept it and move on.

Agreed. Flags matter…

What about Southerners who can show that their families did not hold slaves, yet their properties, cities, towns, were invaded by federal soldiers? To them, the flag represents their country, their heritage.

Do their views matter? Or are the only valid viewpoints are those that take a narrow view of the flag and try and it use it as a modern day hammer to shame people and try and make them feel guilty for something they had zero to do with?

Agreed. Flags matter…

Nice job of removing any doubt you're a racist on a public forum, Professor of Horse Manure.

Do you support/endorse the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation?

What is the opposite of a "Christian Nationalist"? I assume from your comment the opposite would better for America?

What groups do you see as hate groups?

This thread has blown up much more than it needs to.
Take the flag down if you must. The memorial did not have a flag attached to it until the early 1960s.
The memorial, however, is a totally different story. I have many friends whose ancestors names are on the monument. I have also met people whose grandfathers or great-grandfathers returned from the war to find their homes burned and their wives and children dead. Many people had slaves, just as many locally did not but protecting their homes and families required them to join forces with the Confederacy. Leave the monument alone.
It was an ugly time, and we are close to that again. Let us not repeat it. And don't forget our efforts are better spent combating the slavery that exists today. Human trafficking is very real in our own communities.

The monument was placed originally at the Courthouse in Eucheeanna by the Daughters of the Confederacy and moved to DeFuniak when the Courthouse did. If Daughters of Epstein put up a monument, we could deal with it when it first happens, not when it becomes a piece of local history.
BTW, you do know that most of Point Washington was owned by a Brigadier General of the CSA, whose troops saved Tallahassee from falling into Union hands at the Battle of Natural Bridge? He donated the land for both churches, the cemetery, and the original school. Possibly Bay Elementary too, as back in the day Bay Elementary's sulphur water still came from the well for the old school. in the early 1900's he dropped dead in his front yard, in front of the teenager that would become my grandmother. His homestead is commemorated on my cousin's lot. Should everyone move out of Point Washington?
General Miller had a hand in Grayton Beach as well. Tear everything down and vacate it.

I'll leave you to your whataboutism.