bulldozers?

Here's an idea reece.....if you find tents, chairs, umbrellas left out on the beach, simply move them in front and back of the bulldozers! Then they will be much easier to remove from the beach!! Hope you have a great time...can't wait to hear all about your visit!

we leave for grayton on saturday and are oh so ready. it's been a really busy summer and we are looking forward to relaxing on the beach.
so, tell me, am i going to have to look at mr ray's bulldozers all week? I'll live with the sight of them, because i know they are helping folks to rebuild, but do they leave them on the beach, parked? as in blocking my view of the sunset? oh, i surely hope not.

reece

sj- glad to see you are up and feeling better!!

Thanks.
According to local ordinance, the equipment may not remain on the beach overnight. James "Jimmy" Earl Ray's (did you guys notice that Jimmy's name is the same as the killer of Martin Luther King?) bulldozer is sitting in one of his driveways in Gulf Trace, along with his cattle trailers, and yes, you will have to look at them. For the record, I don't think his bulldozer is "helping folks to rebuild."

I'm beginning to think that Walton County is THE place to go if you enjoy breaking the law and getting away with it! This is CRAZY MAKING!

I'm beginning to think that Walton County is THE place to go if you enjoy breaking the law and getting away with it! This is CRAZY MAKING!

The area has long been known by pirates as a place to hide from the Law. Even Al Capone was known to hang out in the area. Now, people just hide behind the Law, or maybe the Makers of the Law.

-- Not that James Earl Ray is breaking the Law by parking his cattle trailers in Gulf Trace.

I'm still reeling from the full name of Ray! Would he have a God complex perhaps? And what is the purpose of the cattle truck these days? Maybe Kurt could start dumping the trash/debris there just to make good use of it?!

Thanks.
According to local ordinance, the equipment may not remain on the beach overnight. James "Jimmy" Earl Ray's (did you guys notice that Jimmy's name is the same as the killer of Martin Luther King?) bulldozer is sitting in one of his driveways in Gulf Trace, along with his cattle trailers, and yes, you will have to look at them. For the record, I don't think his bulldozer is "helping folks to rebuild."

Does Gulf Trace not have a homeowners association that can deal with this? How does this cat get away with such stuff?

JB....I can answer that! Our friend, Moondance who owns in GT says there is NO HOA! Apparently, Ray owns 10 properties in GT and me thinks he thinks HE is the HOA! Someone correct me if I am wrong.

I'm still reeling from the full name of Ray! Would he have a God complex perhaps? And what is the purpose of the cattle truck these days? Maybe Kurt could start dumping the trash/debris there just to make good use of it?!

Good question since barn animals are not allowed to be kept in Gulf Trace, according the the Restrictive Covenants. Perhaps that would be a question better answered by Jimmy Ray himself. His contact number, as found on beachesofsouthwalton.com is
Attraction Gulf Trace Rental/ Ray Enterprises
Address 285 Gulf Shore Drive
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
Phone (850)-231-4239

An excert from the complete article found, regarding James Earl Ray:
James Earl Ray, who owns 10 properties in Gulf Trace, said that three of his septic tanks spilled raw sewage after Hurricane Dennis.

Despite that, he has no intention to pay for water and sewer services.

Instead, he will install a new septic system on his properties that he said will be less likely to spill in the event of storm damage.

"With the new system, we eliminate the drain field and we just have one pipe and the water comes out 99 percent pure," Ray said.

Before the proposed ordinance goes into effect, the Walton County Commission must hold two public hearings and then vote on whether to adopt it. The hearing dates have not been set.

Ray said Wednesday that he opposes the ordinance because the county has no business making Gulf Trace property owners connect to sewer. He added that he thinks Meadows just wants to cause trouble for Gulf Trace with the ordinance.

"This is a private subdivision," he said. "The biggest mistake that the county made was electing a female county commissioner. She's all talk and no action."

Edit: I find it interesting that now when you read the latest articles on Jimmy Ray, he comes off sounding like he wanted the sewer in the first place. This is how people like Jimmy get away with this crappola. Some people only read the latest info, and forget about that which has been burried -- out of sight, out of mind, just like septic tanks on the beach.

"The biggest mistake that the county made was electing a female county commissioner. She's all talk and no action."

Wow :shock:

Forgive me for saying so, but this guy sounds like a complete prick. It also sounds like the other property owners in GT have no recourse but to deal with it. Perhaps there are some other high-profile property owners in GT that could address the problem ;-)

If you need any round or square bales of hay, just ask Moondance for Jimmy Ray's number.

I, for one, am waiting for Moondance to get things in motion. She is a real common sense gal with a passion for doing the right thing! BTW...where is Moondance these days?

I, for one, am waiting for Moondance to get things in motion. She is a real common sense gal with a passion for doing the right thing! BTW...where is Moondance these days?

Great question, Where is she? (Sorry for the laugh, inside joke.)

Laughing because you (like I) thought she was a HE?????

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"This is a private subdivision," he said. "The biggest mistake that the county made was electing a female county commissioner. She's all talk and no action."

Ohmygosh...I can't believe he really said that? I already disliked him and thought he was a jerk before he made such a stupid statement, but now I KNOW he is a jerk and deserves NO respect from ANYONE! I wonder if he's related to the other jerk with the same name!

Too bad he doesn't just pack up his septic tanks and cattle trailer and leave Walton County. That'd be a reason for a real party on the beach!

Ohmygosh...I can't believe he really said that? I already disliked him and thought he was a jerk before he made such a stupid statement, but now I KNOW he is a jerk and deserves NO respect from ANYONE! I wonder if he's related to the other jerk with the same name!

Too bad he doesn't just pack up his septic tanks and cattle trailer and leave Walton County. That'd be a reason for a real party on the beach!

For more pearls about this person....check out the septic tank thread! Now there's some poetic justice!

Earl

Thanks.
According to local ordinance, the equipment may not remain on the beach overnight. James "Jimmy" Earl Ray's (did you guys notice that Jimmy's name is the same as the killer of Martin Luther King?) bulldozer is sitting in one of his driveways in Gulf Trace, along with his cattle trailers, and yes, you will have to look at them. For the record, I don't think his bulldozer is "helping folks to rebuild."

I was told Gulf Trace "Jimmy Ray" has agreed to water & sewer for the sub-division.

Re: Earl

I was told Gulf Trace "Jimmy Ray" has agreed to water & sewer for the sub-division.

I think for earl, it was a directive, being that his property is beachfront. For interior owners, it is optional. If you read all of the articles on earl, you will see that he is strongly opposed to sewer, but now, since he has to tap in, he is saying that it was his decision to hook onto the sewer.

Although I have not witnessed it, I was told by other GT owners that they personally saw earl directing the equipment operators to push the beach scrapings up to support his houses. I may have to walk down to investigate for myself.

Although I have not witnessed it, I was told by other GT owners that they personally saw earl directing the equipment operators to push the beach scrapings up to support his houses. I may have to walk down to investigate for myself.

Smiling JOe PI....sounds good doesn't it?

Smiling JOe PI....sounds good doesn't it?

Not really. How about Smiling JOe, the beach greeter.

Not really. How about Smiling JOe, the beach greeter.

That sounds better...sure beats Smiling JOe the Wal-Mart greeter.

Although I have not witnessed it, I was told by other GT owners that they personally saw earl directing the equipment operators to push the beach scrapings up to support his houses. I may have to walk down to investigate for myself.

Earl the squirrel (really he is a weasel, but it didn't rhyme) is at it again I see. I continue to rely on Moondance and SJ for their reports (thanks my beach savers). Let us know what's happening!

Hey Walton Sun...you listening up there???

Earl the squirrel (really he is a weasel, but it didn't rhyme) is at it again I see. I continue to rely on Moondance and SJ for their reports (thanks my beach savers). Let us know what's happening!

Hey guys, just found this thread. Sorry for being slow on the uptake (and for the long post), and thanks for carrying the torch in my absence.

To JB, no HOA yet, and it's a long story. See the "septic and feces" thread for most of the whole ugly story. We're working on it. Stay tuned. ;-) We got a letter in the past few days. He has suggested an "informal" association (with implicit power, authority and control continuing to reside in Him). Have not digested fully yet and debating whether to post verbatim. :?:

Sueshore, absolutely no doubt that He was directing the dozer, giving the operator "up the country" about where, how, how high, how long, which properties, which priority, etc. And the kicker is that He "rode herd" over the process over several days last week (undoubtedly continuing today) in His vehicle up and down the GT beachfront. Yes, really. Maybe some feudal perk, but I was pretty sure that was prohibited on GT. I guess I'll be trucking my own 4WD down there next visit... :idea:

I have had some other pressing biz, so I have not followed up like I need to. I need the list of property owners in GT and I think I can get it from WalCo Property/Tax records. Smiling JOe PI, maybe you can give me an assist on this in your "spare time"?? Send me a PM.

The only possible explanation I can fathom is that the temporary suspension of permits for 60 days after Dennis has given Him the utmost latitude in "shoring up" damaged properties, but I don't know. It seems to me that all or most need to be demolished. And I don't know where to go for answers. Cindy Meadows perhaps?? :clap_1: Or Smiling JOe??

More later (soon).