People poo-pooing on the Beach

Hey Folks, As my wife, a teacher of 24 years says, if you consider the average IQ is 100, why be stressed over the obvious. The lower half of the intelligence scale usually ruins things for everyone whether it be talking at the theatre, driving slowly in the passing lane, leaving items on the beach. Income probably has less to do with it although one could argue a correlation with smarts and personal wealth. I think more visitors equals greater trash issues. I try to pick up what flotsam I can when I visit.

Bob I always figured you for a young guy. Either you married someone much older or you're young at heart?

Problem is, many of us rednecks can't even spell "concentousness" - let alone know what it means...

By the way, this redneck leaves nothin' but footprints on the beach and takes a bag along to pick up others' trash when on my daily walk.

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I guess all of the "poor" people, who store there poo-poo under the walkovers at Seaside, will leave their mark all over the beaches when TS Arlene comes to visit.

Kurt, I'm 49. Married ,two teenage daughters and a dog. Do not pass this on. Was at the beach this past week. Left before Arlene. Picked up my Sowal stickers at Seagrove Market. There's now a Nissan pickup driving around Orlando w/ "SoWal" in the back window. Met Ollie this past week having lunch at the Red Bar w/ a certain Realtor "everyone knows". If you want to see drastic change, take a look at the excavation between Little/Big Redfish Lake. Not good. Am sure the Bannerman family is "well" financially. We noticed more trash on the beach this year and used our plastic Publix shopping bags to store beach flotsam. The good news is that I saw a few others doing the same.

Kurt, I'm 49. Married ,two teenage daughters and a dog. Do not pass this on. Was at the beach this past week. Left before Arlene. Picked up my Sowal stickers at Seagrove Market. There's now a Nissan pickup driving around Orlando w/ "SoWal" in the back window. Met Ollie this past week having lunch at the Red Bar w/ a certain Realtor "everyone knows". If you want to see drastic change, take a look at the excavation between Little/Big Redfish Lake. Not good. Am sure the Bannerman family is "well" financially. We noticed more trash on the beach this year and used our plastic Publix shopping bags to store beach flotsam. The good news is that I saw a few others doing the same.

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Yeah I recycle those bags the same way. Thanks to you and everyone else for helping to promote the site. :clap_1:

Only 3 days into the season, and already people are leaving crap all over the Beach. I've seen cigarette butts, dog poop, perma tents, beer cans, beer bottles, plastic bottles, plastic shovels and buckets, orange army men, inflatable swimming pools, etc. If I had a dump truck and a loader, I would have cleaned up much more than I did.

Please help keep our beaches clean. If you cannot haul your poop off the Beach at the end of the day, perhaps you should reconsider how much crap you should bring. If people keep this up, I will take action. Consider yourself warned.

Okay, so let me get my beach etiquette straight. We're owners, not renters. I'd really like the leave our tent out during our next two-week stay because my husband and I have both had some skin cancer. My husband had open-heart surgery last summer, so setting up a tent every day would be out of the question for him. I'm not strong enough to do it. We can put away the chairs. So, would our plan be a breach of beach etiquette? We called a beach chair rental person, but they wanted $25 a day times 2 weeks - outrageous!

Is there a difference between the etiquette rules for owners, and renters? From what I can tell, a tent left overnight could obstruct turtles whether the tent belongs to one or the other. I haven't figured out why it's okay for beach chair rental services to leave their stuff out though...

I like the beach chair with umbrella idea. Or failing that, a bigger umbrella or maybe a dome shade tent that could be picked up and moved easily without breaking it down.

So, would our plan be a breach of beach etiquette?

Not a question of beach etiquette, but beach law in Walton County.

Is there a difference between the etiquette rules for owners, and renters? From what I can tell, a tent left overnight could obstruct turtles whether the tent belongs to one or the other. I haven't figured out why it's okay for beach chair rental services to leave their stuff out though...

I like the beach chair with umbrella idea. Or failing that, a bigger umbrella or maybe a dome shade tent that could be picked up and moved easily without breaking it down.

Well, since I pay about $100,000 a year for mortgage, taxes, and insurance to be there, and a renter doesn't, I should get a few privileges, don't ya think? It's not a matter of etiquette. Even an Easy-Up Tent is difficult to set up and break down when you have health problems. You'll understand when you're over 50. I'd like to be in my 20's, but physically I'm not there.

You know, Smiling JOe, it flat-out stinks to be old, but it's better than dead. And there are just some physical limitations that people have when they've had open-heart surgery. So we're just supposed to sit out in the sun and get skin cancer because we can't set up a tent every day? Is there no empathy in the world? I guess you cold-hearted forty-somethings would say, hey, if you can afford $100K per year, just tack on $25 a day for a beach chair guy to set up your chairs for your. Yup, thanks for your empathy. If you're lucky, you'll live this long.

Not a question of beach etiquette, but beach law in Walton County.

Dude, you're at 941. I gotta keep typing. Thank goodness professors don't teach in the summer. Maybe I can add these posts to my list of publications for merit pay (LOL)?

I'd like to be in my 20's, but physically I'm not there.

And I'd like to own property in SoWal, but financially I'm not there.

Seriously though, it's kinda sad to hear someone complain about being forced to "sit out in the sun" at the most beautiful beaches in the world, and get skin cancer. If only 95% of the rest of America were so fortunate!

Put the word out - I bet any neighboring kid would be thrilled to earn a few bucks this summer by setting up and taking down your tent for you everyday.

You know, Smiling JOe, it flat-out stinks to be old, but it's better than dead. And there are just some physical limitations that people have when they've had open-heart surgery. So we're just supposed to sit out in the sun and get skin cancer because we can't set up a tent every day? Is there no empathy in the world? I guess you cold-hearted forty-somethings would say, hey, if you can afford $100K per year, just tack on $25 a day for a beach chair guy to set up your chairs for your. Yup, thanks for your empathy. If you're lucky, you'll live this long.

Tell it to someone who has authority to make changes, Cindy Meadows, your County Commissioner for District 5.
Cindy Meadows
90 Spires Lane, Unit 7-A
Santa Rosa Beach, FL. 32459
Phone: (850) 622-3059
Fax: (850) 622-3067
e-mail: meacindy@co.walton.fl.us

And I'd like to own property in SoWal, but financially I'm not there.

Seriously though, it's kinda sad to hear someone complain about being forced to "sit out in the sun" at the most beautiful beaches in the world, and get skin cancer. If only 95% of the rest of America were so fortunate!

Put the word out - I bet any neighboring kid would be thrilled to earn a few bucks this summer by setting up and taking down your tent for you everyday.

It's also sad to be physically unable to do things you used to do. :'( We'll just pay someone to take care of it for us.

you cold-hearted forty-somethings

Wow, that gator really does bite

Good morning phdphay. Calm down, you know we love you

pdhphay, you said in another thread, and imply in this one, that "Apparently the beach crowd is turned off by people who are ill and handicapped" , in regards to you setting up a tent. Please understand, it's nothing to do with you, and not about "preserving photo ops" as you say. It's about preserving the beach and its wildlife --being a responsible citizen. Tents and other debris left on the beach not only can erode the beach if left out overnight, but can prevent sea turtles from nesting and propagating...they're endangered.

You say owners should get more "priveleges." Certainly you don't mean that we owners shouldn't concern ourselves with beach preservation... Seems to me owners should be setting the example of how to take proper care of our beaches. (you wouldnt want folks in your neighborhood tossing thier garbage on the lawn and street because they were too infirmed to bring the trash cans to the street, would you?)

It's not that anyone doesn't care about your skin cancer and surgeries. Please know that. I've had melanoma too, we do have to be more careful than others. But if we made exceptions for all of us, the beach that we live on will suffer. You're right, Easy-Ups are not so easy, truth be told, but there are other options. Personally, I bring easy-to-carry umbrellas and chairs, and take advantage of public pavilions.

We were there last week. We took our easy up tent. Also empty gallon milk containers, cut off the tops, filled with sand, tied string to handle, buried and enjoyed our tent during the day. Reversed that every afternoon, emptying the sand from the jugs, of course, and filling the holes back up.

good idea!!! :clap_1:

pdhphay, you said in another thread, and imply in this one, that "Apparently the beach crowd is turned off by people who are ill and handicapped" , in regards to you setting up a tent. Please understand, it's nothing to do with you, and not about "preserving photo ops" as you say. It's about preserving the beach and its wildlife --being a responsible citizen. Tents and other debris left on the beach not only can erode the beach if left out overnight, but can prevent sea turtles from nesting and propagating...they're endangered.

You say owners should get more "priveleges." Certainly you don't mean that we owners shouldn't concern ourselves with beach preservation... Seems to me owners should be setting the example of how to take proper care of our beaches. (you wouldnt want folks in your neighborhood tossing thier garbage on the lawn and street because they were too infirmed to bring the trash cans to the street, would you?)

It's not that anyone doesn't care about your skin cancer and surgeries. Please know that. I've had melanoma too, we do have to be more careful than others. But if we made exceptions for all of us, the beach that we live on will suffer. You're right, Easy-Ups are not so easy, truth be told, but there are other options. Personally, I bring easy-to-carry umbrellas and chairs, and take advantage of public pavilions.

Great post Thumper.:clap_1: Welcome to the board

I sure it has been mentioned in this thread somewhere. The problem is the average visitor to the area will leave the Walmart canopy up for the duration of their stay (or until a storm knocks it over) and they do not take it back down (or pick up the twisted pieces) when they depart. We see this on the beach at High Pointe every time we are there. The other problem is the storms sometimes blow the canopy up on the dunes and they are not reachable. So once again a few are screwing things for many. We leave nothing behind. If I see my kid drop something wheather they mean to or not I make them pick it up or chase it down in the wind.

I sure it has been mentioned in this thread somewhere. The problem is the average visitor to the area will leave the Walmart canopy up for the duration of their stay (or until a storm knocks it over) and they do not take it back down (or pick up the twisted pieces) when they depart. We see this on the beach at High Pointe every time we are there. The other problem is the storms sometimes blow the canopy up on the dunes and they are not reachable. So once again a few are screwing things for many. We leave nothing behind. If I see my kid drop something wheather they mean to or not I make them pick it up or chase it down in the wind.

And I do the same with my son!!!!

Slam me, Thumper, and add insult to injury by mocking my typo ("priveleges")! Sorry, I guess I sound bitter, but getting old stinks, you know it? Better than dead, though. It's been a tough year for us. I'll stop whining, deal with the bad along with the good, and be a good citizen with regard to the tent.

And for the record, I do care about beach preservation. I've asked people to get off the dunes many times, among other acts of good citizenship. And, of course, I wouldn't advocate a person throwing his/her trash on the street just because he/she is handicapped in some way. I frankly didn't know that tents impeded the sea turtles.

BTW it's "phd" as in "Ph.D."

Friends?

Slam me, Thumper, and add insult to injury by mocking my typo ("priveleges")!

Whattyaknow, I didn't even know that WAS a typo. (is it privileges?)

Regardless, there was no slam there, phdphay. It was nothing more than a (hopefully) gentle and reasoned response to your own quotes. In several threads today you sounded quite upset with the "beach people", thinking it was discriminating against you and others who have health issues. I was trying to point out how that was not the case at all, and show a little understanding for your side at the same time.

and oh yes...FRIENDS....of course! :wink:

BTW it's "phd" as in "Ph.D."

Friends?

Ok... So what's phay?

Ok... So what's phay?

My guess is, if phd is Ph.D., then phay is Ph.Ay. What do you S.Ay.?