Connector Road Between 30A and 98 East of Seagrove

I don't believe Ive ever heard either one of you state it one way or the other but I do know who is backing you and she is definitely anti-building so I just put 2 and 2 together. Its the same women who back Nipper and has Nipper voted yes on any projects outside her own personal project?

I don't know how to put it any plainer; I am pro economic growth and pro sustainable development. I have a record on the planning commission to back that up. I am against variances that stress our infrastructure, create future problems and increase density for no other reason than to make a few dollars more for a project. In other words, I am pro citizens and anti special interests. Since my opponent is the exact opposite, people have a clear choice.

Haha thats a pretty good one but unfortunately you missed my point in order to make your joke. I guess if I were a troll Id live under the new 4 lane bridge that was built to accommodate the tourist who feed our economy.

Elitist troll!

Elitist troll!

So I'm an elitist now because Im pro tourism? Can you please explain how you got to this assumption?

At the next BCC meeting 9/11/18 is a request to approve $600,000 to Atkins North America (Freeport FL) to provide environmental consulting service for new connector road between Seagrove and WaterSound Parkway.

http://walton.legistar.com/gateway.aspx?M=F&ID=686cd4cf-2097-41d5-909b-74305ac8e4cd.pdf

The first step of creating a #SouthWaltonConnector road from 30a to Hwy 98 was approved 4-1 by the Walton County Commissioners. Step 1: approving $597,780 for professional design and engineering services. #SouthWalton @WMBBTV

The first step of creating a #SouthWaltonConnector road from 30a to Hwy 98 was approved 4-1 by the Walton County Commissioners. Step 1: approving $597,780 for professional design and engineering services. #SouthWalton @WMBBTV

Pave paradise and put up a parking lot... front row center seat right here.

Shannon

The first step of creating a #SouthWaltonConnector road from 30a to Hwy 98 was approved 4-1 by the Walton County Commissioners. Step 1: approving $597,780 for professional design and engineering services. #SouthWalton @WMBBTV

Another study that goes nowhere.

$600,000. Complete, total waste of money.

How many bike paths/sidewalks could that build on existing North/South connectors? Holiday Road, 393.

Is it a waste of money because you don't want the road or think it won't be built?

Is it a waste of money because you don't want the road or think it won't be built?

Bingo!!!!!!!!!

Bingo!!!!!!!!!

Horse done left the barn and trottin'.

I suppose it could still be shot in the head though if anyone cares about protected state lands, wildlife, and sensitive ecosystems.

When traffic backed up from 395/30A to the Tom Thumb, people cried for another connector.
While traffic can still back up at times, the traffic signal has effectively alleviated most of it, or at least the times I've been through it seems to have solved a lot of the problem.
If customary use isn't upheld, many of our visitors are going elsewhere.
So, there is no need for another connector anymore.

A number of options have been looked at for another connector road. With every one of them there are common sense issues. Options either split the forest, damage wetlands, fauna, and wildlife habitat, too near to Watersound Parkway to make a difference, too near to 395 to make a difference, affect a neighborhood and on and on. Unfortunately, the favored option by those pushing for a road is along the power lines that already exist. Alabama Power may have issue with that (they own/have the easement), not to mention that Forestry is likely to say NO. About the only way I can imagine a road being approved at all through the forest would be to make it an elevated road and they cost big bucks so I find it hard to imagine Walton County spending the money for that. Worst of all is that all the St. Joe sector building that is going to occur over the next 50 years may end up using that road to get to the beach unless St. Joe is going to open up it's Watercolor/sound properties to their other developments. Building more roads typically brings more people. Just an unfortunate reality.

When traffic backed up from 395/30A to the Tom Thumb, people cried for another connector.
While traffic can still back up at times, the traffic signal has effectively alleviated most of it, or at least the times I've been through it seems to have solved a lot of the problem.
If customary use isn't upheld, many of our visitors are going elsewhere.
So, there is no need for another connector anymore.

Yes I think we'd be better served by adding turn lanes at existing signals on 30A and 98, and adding additional signals at danger points like next to 98 BBQ.

The 395/30A signal is working. What is the deal with the lane in front of Seagrove Market that is closed? Is that meant to be parking for the restaurants?

I run through that area as there are some trails and sandy timber roads that connect Pt Washington State Forest and Deer Lake State Park including the powerline sandy road and it’s immediate vicinity. There are several osprey nests and a wetlands patch right in the middle of it, and I’ve seen racks or scat from just about every wild animal that’s native to the area. I guess this road is absolutely necessary to make the area more accessible to all the increasingly dense inland rental and residential development development development.

I have written the state and will again asking them to NOT approve the connector road. The state has to approve any roads going through the state forest. But that does not stop four of the BCC braintrust from thinking that giving $600,000 to an engineering firm is a good idea.

A number of options have been looked at for another connector road. With every one of them there are common sense issues. Options either split the forest, damage wetlands, fauna, and wildlife habitat, too near to Watersound Parkway to make a difference, too near to 395 to make a difference, affect a neighborhood and on and on. Unfortunately, the favored option by those pushing for a road is along the power lines that already exist. Alabama Power may have issue with that (they own/have the easement), not to mention that Forestry is likely to say NO. About the only way I can imagine a road being approved at all through the forest would be to make it an elevated road and they cost big bucks so I find it hard to imagine Walton County spending the money for that. Worst of all is that all the St. Joe sector building that is going to occur over the next 50 years may end up using that road to get to the beach unless St. Joe is going to open up it's Watercolor/sound properties to their other developments. Building more roads typically brings more people. Just an unfortunate reality.

Excellent review of the issue. Once again, we have a solution in search of solving the wrong problem.

The problem is the density of 30A is already past it's peak and now the county is making last ditch efforts to fix the over-density they created (or assisted the real estate industry in creating). These are bad decisions on top of bad decisions.

This isn't rocket science, it's simple math. When you have a neighborhood of residential homes with 2 adults in each home, and then turn them into mini-hotels with occupancy of 20 people, all you need to do is look at the number of cars in the driveways. Those cars are going on 30A.

There is only a need for more roads three months out of the year and tourist popular holidays. That should tell you all you need to know.

Over-density is already here. The answer is not to destroy what unspoiled natural areas we have left. This is our moment to stop the madness.

Shannon

I have written the state and will again asking them to NOT approve the connector road. The state has to approve any roads going through the state forest. But that does not stop four of the BCC braintrust from thinking that giving $600,000 to an engineering firm is a good idea.

Thanks for doing this - can you post the body of your letter and where you sent it please? I too would like to make my voice heard and I'm sure others would as well. I have no confidence in our BCC's ability to make appropriate growth or protection decisions.

When I first heard about a road through a forest I realized these investors would burn down their neighbor's house to get more parking for their renters.

Shannon

I run through that area as there are some trails and sandy timber roads that connect Pt Washington State Forest and Deer Lake State Park including the powerline sandy road and it’s immediate vicinity. There are several osprey nests and a wetlands patch right in the middle of it, and I’ve seen racks or scat from just about every wild animal that’s native to the area. I guess this road is absolutely necessary to make the area more accessible to all the increasingly dense inland rental and residential development development development.

When Governor Scott was in town he said he would do whatever was needed to get you people your vital connector road.

When Governor Scott was in town he said he would do whatever was needed to get you people your vital connector road.

Is this for real?

I would love to read a transcript if it exists.

Is this for real?

I would love to read a transcript if it exists.

It was in print. Think it's posted here.

Is this for real?

I would love to read a transcript if it exists.

Proposed Seagrove Road Through Point Washington State Forest

"What do you need me to do," asked Governor Rick Scott, State of Florida.

Tony Anderson, Walton County Commissioner replied, "We just need to get approval to do it."

"We need to get it run up to you. I think they (the County) are still working on some studies, they have to do to get it in front of the Cabinet," added Sheriff Adkinson.

"So, we are going to see if there is a way to accelerate that and then we, you know, we have been able to dramatically increase our State Budget for transportation," said Governor Scott.

Without the Cabinet's approval to expedite the process, the idea will be back to square one.

Governor Scott has less than seven months left in office. He says told Walton County Commissioners he plans to discuss the idea with the Cabinet during one of their future meetings.

Too too bad the county doesn't have an engineer leading Roads and Bridges. Had a great one a while back but opted instead to hire an equipment operator to run the largest department of the BCC. Administration chases away the qualified professionals so their will be done though they lack expertise in many fields. They favor the corrupt so they can just take and take from the taxpayers. The corrupt won't tell, just as long as they get a share or bank a future favor. Just take a look at the professional histories of the current male administrators. With the installation of new board members things may change the county's rep and mission (does it have one) but only if commishes take a long hard look at those two. What with #MeToo, rising racial tensions, and hiring "friends" who are thieves, misogynists and illiterates I guess the lawsuits will continue. Where are the women in impactful positions? Where are the people of color in salaried positions? Commishes...wake up and serve your constituents, ALL of them and please, please, watch your administrators x 2.

BCC meeting tomorrow:

33.19-0328 - Pdf
Request approval to schedule a Special Meeting for the South Walton Connector Road PD&E Study presentation and update in August

HISTORY:  August 11, 2015-BCC approved to request Atkins to begin updating the Study and to bring a Scope of Work and Cost Estimate to the Board.  February 9, 2016-BCC approved Task order No. 16-01 with Atkins Engineering.  December 13, 2016-BCC approved the Atkins Engineering 30A Traffic Study.  February 14, 2017-BCC approved to look at Alternate 4 and to look at the east boundary.  February 13, 2018-BCC approved for staff to develop an RFQ for the PD&E Study (least impactful method to alleviate traffic on 30A) and bring back to the BCC for approval to advertise.  March 13, 2018-BCC approved the SCOP of Services for CR 30A PD&E Study and to advertise an RFQ as presented.  May 17, 2018-RFQ 018-027 closed.  June 28, 2018- BCC awarded RFQ 018-027 PD&E Services for SW Connector Roads and approved to begin negotiations.  August 28, 2018-BCC approved to advertise and hold a public hearing to recognize $597,750.00 from the Proportionate Fair Share fund for the professional design & engineering services for the South Walton Connector Road 30A & Hwy 98.  September 11, 2018-BCC approved Contract No. 018-027 PD&E Services for South Walton Connector Road with Atkins North America, Inc. in the amount of $597,780.00. BCC approved a Resolution to recognize Proportionate Fair Share Fund in the amount of $597,780.00 for the professional design and engineering services for the South Walton Connector Road from 30A to Hwy 98.

Build another road and all it will do is bring more people in and cut the forest in two in the process. WHEN are we going to make protecting our resources a priority? Seems we are going to pay for study after study for something that has already been discussed ad nauseam. Hopefully the state forest service will protect what Walton County seems unwilling to protect.