Phead and Jfunn have a date at the Sea Bar next Sunday. His #1 concern is the oysters. Yay or nay this year? Are they ok to eat? Jfunn said lots of people have been getting sick. Anyone know?
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Skunky
Why would anything be wrong with them? I have consumed plenty of bivalves from both Appalachicola Bay and Louisiana waters. People get so freaked-out by tainted seafood when the reality is that the industry is regulated by both the government and itself! The seafood industry does NOT want rumors of a dangerous product hitting the news ala Mad Cow disease. It is safe!
You think these folks don't care about the product? Look at the flowchart for Florida oysters:http://seafood.ucdavis.edu/haccp/plans/oysters-fl.htm
Eat, drink and be merry! :clap_1:
You think these folks don't care about the product? Look at the flowchart for Florida oysters:http://seafood.ucdavis.edu/haccp/plans/oysters-fl.htm
Eat, drink and be merry! :clap_1:
SoWal Expert
Phead and Jfunn have a date at the Sea Bar next Sunday. His #1 concern is the oysters. Yay or nay this year? Are they ok to eat? Jfunn said lots of people have been getting sick. Anyone know?I guess that depends on the vender. I won't eat raw oysters at all places that serve them. Yesterday, I had my first oysters since about this time in 2005, due to Red Tide closing the beds for so much of this past fall. They were the best! I ate only 3 dz (only $14.95, but that is high for PC) , but I could have gone for 6dz. I no longer bother with the saltines. Just a little sauce and big ole juicy, salty, fresh Apalachicola Oysters. Those alone are worth the trip to Panty Maw -- Captain's Table on Beck Ave -- yummy!
Beach Fanatic
:clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: Glad to hear good news !
Beach Fanatic
Oh, I love the Captain's Table on Beck! Didn't know it was still there. We get fresh Appalachicolas on the half-shell at Goatfeathers for $3.99 a dozen this time of year. One of their waitresses once told us that we could get a half-dozen for $5.99 from the menu, or we could have a dozen at $3.99 because they were having a special. Said they were the same oysters, just depending upon how we ordered them. We learn something every trip.
If you're concerned about the oysters, have a glass of sauvignon blanc with them. The wine contains a substance that will neutralize any possible salmonella in the oysters. I still prefer a cold brew (Anchor Steam) with mine, though. I don't think I've ever become sick after eating oysters in the area. But I got a bad case once from a tira misu with spoiled mascarpone at Bud & Alley's. Ewwwww....
Said they were the same oysters, just depending upon how we ordered them. We learn something every trip.If you're concerned about the oysters, have a glass of sauvignon blanc with them. The wine contains a substance that will neutralize any possible salmonella in the oysters. I still prefer a cold brew (Anchor Steam) with mine, though. I don't think I've ever become sick after eating oysters in the area. But I got a bad case once from a tira misu with spoiled mascarpone at Bud & Alley's. Ewwwww....
beats on hood
I love raw oysters - one of my faves as a Tulane student. But nowadays I'm scared to eat them until I have the courage to get vaccinated against hepatitis. Yes, I know the "R" month rule, but I'm somewhat of a hypochondriac.
I went to two different Subway's yesterday because the sandwich preparer used the phone with his gloves on, then started touching my sandwich. He refused to change gloves. Then at the second Subway, the sandwich preparer collected money from a customer with his gloves on, and then proceeded to make my sandwich. I left and went to Chick-Fil-A. Of course, I didn't see what they did to my sandwich - they could have put a bugger in it or dropped it on the floor.
Guess I should have made my own sandwiches. But when was the last time they cleaned the slicer at the Publix deli ... and does the person behind the counter have TB and sneezed on the slicer just prior to my arrival ...
I could fix my own chicken, but have you ever seen the Cagle's chicken trucks rolling down the highway? Doug and David Cagle, I love y'all (old friends of mine), but honey, those chickens look pretty sick, and that's what they serve at Chick-Fil-A.
Oh, heck, we're totally out of control on our sources of food. If one thought about all of the possibilities of bad things that could happen to the food one ingests ... well, you get my drift.
Woo-hoo! Thanks for inadvertently making be go through this thought process. I'm having raw oysters at the beach. One-and-a-half more "R" months!
I went to two different Subway's yesterday because the sandwich preparer used the phone with his gloves on, then started touching my sandwich. He refused to change gloves. Then at the second Subway, the sandwich preparer collected money from a customer with his gloves on, and then proceeded to make my sandwich. I left and went to Chick-Fil-A. Of course, I didn't see what they did to my sandwich - they could have put a bugger in it or dropped it on the floor.
Guess I should have made my own sandwiches. But when was the last time they cleaned the slicer at the Publix deli ... and does the person behind the counter have TB and sneezed on the slicer just prior to my arrival ...
I could fix my own chicken, but have you ever seen the Cagle's chicken trucks rolling down the highway? Doug and David Cagle, I love y'all (old friends of mine), but honey, those chickens look pretty sick, and that's what they serve at Chick-Fil-A.
Oh, heck, we're totally out of control on our sources of food. If one thought about all of the possibilities of bad things that could happen to the food one ingests ... well, you get my drift.
Woo-hoo! Thanks for inadvertently making be go through this thought process. I'm having raw oysters at the beach. One-and-a-half more "R" months!
Beach Fanatic
I love raw oysters - one of my faves as a Tulane student. But nowadays I'm scared to eat them until I have the courage to get vaccinated against hepatitis.
Be Courageous and DO get vaccinated against hepatitis....I put it off for a long time and it ended up being no big deal....just finished my last shot....I am assuming it's now safe for me to eat raw oysters....but would appreciate any input to either confirm or re-educate me on this. I love them but have totally stayed clear for past several years....ever since I heard about a man who became totally paralyzed from eating raw oysters....does anyone know anything about this??
Skunky
I love raw oysters - one of my faves as a Tulane student. But nowadays I'm scared to eat them until I have the courage to get vaccinated against hepatitis. Yes, I know the "R" month rule, but I'm somewhat of a hypochondriac.
I went to two different Subway's yesterday because the sandwich preparer used the phone with his gloves on, then started touching my sandwich. He refused to change gloves. Then at the second Subway, the sandwich preparer collected money from a customer with his gloves on, and then proceeded to make my sandwich. I left and went to Chick-Fil-A. Of course, I didn't see what they did to my sandwich - they could have put a bugger in it or dropped it on the floor.
Guess I should have made my own sandwiches. But when was the last time they cleaned the slicer at the Publix deli ... and does the person behind the counter have TB and sneezed on the slicer just prior to my arrival ...
I could fix my own chicken, but have you ever seen the Cagle's chicken trucks rolling down the highway? Doug and David Cagle, I love y'all (old friends of mine), but honey, those chickens look pretty sick, and that's what they serve at Chick-Fil-A.
Oh, heck, we're totally out of control on our sources of food. If one thought about all of the possibilities of bad things that could happen to the food one ingests ... well, you get my drift.
Woo-hoo! Thanks for inadvertently making be go through this thought process. I'm having raw oysters at the beach. One-and-a-half more "R" months!
I eat my oysters in the A months-ALL! Ice and refrigeration means "eat 'em if you got 'em". What was your favorite oyster eatery in NOLA? I like Cassamentos on Magazine Street. Which leads to a great debate between Mrs Skunkape and myself. She swears Apalachicola oysters are better than the Louisiana variety due to the appreciable saltiness. While I admit Florida's bivalves are saltier, I prefer the creamier, plumper ones they catch in our murky water. Either way you cut it, support your local fisherman and eat more oysters!
Beach Lover
I eat my oysters in the A months-ALL! Ice and refrigeration means "eat 'em if you got 'em". What was your favorite oyster eatery in NOLA? I like Cassamentos on Magazine Street. Which leads to a great debate between Mrs Skunkape and myself. She swears Apalachicola oysters are better than the Louisiana variety due to the appreciable saltiness. While I admit Florida's bivalves are saltier, I prefer the creamier, plumper ones they catch in our murky water. Either way you cut it, support your local fisherman and eat more oysters!
There used to be a place called Tylers Beer Garden on Magazine... or maybe it was Tchop? The John Rivers Movement would play jazz there. They used to have 10 cent oyster night on Thursdays.
Skunky
I love raw oysters - one of my faves as a Tulane student. But nowadays I'm scared to eat them until I have the courage to get vaccinated against hepatitis.
Be Courageous and DO get vaccinated against hepatitis....I put it off for a long time and it ended up being no big deal....just finished my last shot....I am assuming it's now safe for me to eat raw oysters....but would appreciate any input to either confirm or re-educate me on this. I love them but have totally stayed clear for past several years....ever since I heard about a man who became totally paralyzed from eating raw oysters....does anyone know anything about this??
Skunkape MD says you have been vaccinated against Hepatitis B. If you were to develop Hepatitis from an oyster, it would be more likely to be Hepatitis A. Here is the deal...Hepatitis A is spread via the fecal/oral route. It is pretty common where the folks are exposed to raw sewage;you get the idea. In most cases, Hep A is an unpleasant experience compete with fever, jaundice, GI distress, etc, but healthy folks almost always recover without longterm problems. Hepatitis B is bloodborne or spread with contact of body fluids. It is really, really, REALLY unlikely you would develop Hepatitis B from a raw oyster. Now, the real confusion with oysters and hepatitis started when the health warning signs popped-up. People who HAVE liver disease of any etiology including active Hepatitis B or C have a much harder time recovering from acute hepatitis A because it takes a huge toll on an already stressed liver. If you REALLY want to protect yourself, you can get a Hepatitis A vaccine. My official advice-You no doubt had a hepatitis panel drawn prior to your vaccination. If you were not told you have Hep C, and you are now vaccinated against Hep B, eat as many oysters as you can get your hands on! They are safe!
Skunky
There used to be a place called Tylers Beer Garden on Magazine... or maybe it was Tchop? The John Rivers Movement would play jazz there. They used to have 10 cent oyster night on Thursdays.
Tyler's! Yes, I know it well. I am not sure whether or not they opened back up yet. James Rivers Movement! Still around too... :clap_1:
Beach Fanatic
If you were not told you have Hep C, and you are now vaccinated against Hep B, eat as many oysters as you can get your hands on! They are safe!
THANKS 30A Skunkape! I appreciate your help in getter a much better understanding of this hepatitis thing! I am soooo excited about eating oysters again!!
beats on hood
I eat my oysters in the A months-ALL! Ice and refrigeration means "eat 'em if you got 'em". What was your favorite oyster eatery in NOLA? I like Cassamentos on Magazine Street. Which leads to a great debate between Mrs Skunkape and myself. She swears Apalachicola oysters are better than the Louisiana variety due to the appreciable saltiness. While I admit Florida's bivalves are saltier, I prefer the creamier, plumper ones they catch in our murky water. Either way you cut it, support your local fisherman and eat more oysters!We did Cassamentos, but our favorite oyster bar was at Pascal's Manale. Or when funds were an issue, we'd do Acme. Parents always wanted to do Felix's when they came to town, and that was cool because they'd always foot the bill for the vodka shots between each oyster.
Did you ever "DO" Magazine Street? We'd start at the levee near Audubon Street and have a drink at every bar on Magazine going toward Canal. We never made it past a place we called "No Name's," which probably doesn't exist anymore, but literally it had "no name."
beats on hood
Skunkape MD says you have been vaccinated against Hepatitis B. If you were to develop Hepatitis from an oyster, it would be more likely to be Hepatitis A. Here is the deal...Hepatitis A is spread via the fecal/oral route. It is pretty common where the folks are exposed to raw sewage;you get the idea. In most cases, Hep A is an unpleasant experience compete with fever, jaundice, GI distress, etc, but healthy folks almost always recover without longterm problems. Hepatitis B is bloodborne or spread with contact of body fluids. It is really, really, REALLY unlikely you would develop Hepatitis B from a raw oyster. Now, the real confusion with oysters and hepatitis started when the health warning signs popped-up. People who HAVE liver disease of any etiology including active Hepatitis B or C have a much harder time recovering from acute hepatitis A because it takes a huge toll on an already stressed liver. If you REALLY want to protect yourself, you can get a Hepatitis A vaccine. My official advice-You no doubt had a hepatitis panel drawn prior to your vaccination. If you were not told you have Hep C, and you are now vaccinated against Hep B, eat as many oysters as you can get your hands on! They are safe!Thanks for the info. I'll have to check this out. I know that the CDC recommends hepatitis vaccinations (now I have to check which ones) for people who travel to third-world countries, like my husband who acquires manufacturing sites.
I'll beif I've avoided raw oysters for years unnecessarily!
Beach Lover
Went to Caroline's on the River in Apalachicola for lunch not too long ago. It is a shame they have to put such a strong warning on their menu about the oysters...people were eating them nonetheless. I'm afraid I'm allergic to bi-valves...which is another shame, so I had the grouper sandwich, fried, of course!
SoWal Expert
One of my mom's friends died about three years ago from eating raw oysters, but not before he spent a few months in the hospital. I know other young and healthy people, two in particular, who were extremely sick after eating raw oysters. My brother was one of the two, and he was out of it for about a week. His friend, the other victim, was in the hospital for about a week, and very ill for about one month. All of this makes me aware of the potential dangers I face when eating oysters, and these personal stories are the reasons why I don't eat oysters at any old place that serves them.
By the way, Hunt's Oyster Bar, in Panama City, recently sold there downtown location (which was a lousy set up anyway), and the owner is working on reopening the Beck Ave location
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)which burned two years ago, just up the street from the Captain's table. While they are not open for dining yet, they are selling bagged Apalachicola Oysters out of the back of the building.
By the way, Hunt's Oyster Bar, in Panama City, recently sold there downtown location (which was a lousy set up anyway), and the owner is working on reopening the Beck Ave location
clap_1: )which burned two years ago, just up the street from the Captain's table. While they are not open for dining yet, they are selling bagged Apalachicola Oysters out of the back of the building.Skunky
Did they have hepatitis Joe? Or could it have been the dread Vibrio vulnificus, which one could just as easily acquire while walking barefoot on the beach!
SoWal Expert
Did they have hepatitis Joe?I neve asked that question. All I knew was that they were very ill. They were not eating in local restaurants. My brother and his friend ate their oysters in a popular night spot/restaurant in Athens GA and my mom's friend ate his last batch of raw oysters at a seafood place in Dothan AL.
Beach Lover
One of my mom's friends died about three years ago from eating raw oysters, but not before he spent a few months in the hospital. I know other young and healthy people, two in particular, who were extremely sick after eating raw oysters. My brother was one of the two, and he was out of it for about a week. His friend, the other victim, was in the hospital for about a week, and very ill for about one month. All of this makes me aware of the potential dangers I face when eating oysters, and these personal stories are the reasons why I don't eat oysters at any old place that serves them.
OMG! No wonder they put those warnings right on the menu. I learned something today.
SoWal Expert
Similar warning labels can be found on menus which offer hamburgers regarding the dangers of undercooked hamburger meat. For a while, it was a voluntary thing in GA, but they may have changed the rules.
Skunky
That is a little different. I was in Purgatory in Shreveport for a few years and was really picky about eating raw oysters that far from the coast. If you put them on ice and they are consumed in a few days all will probably be well, but all it takes is one knucklehead letting them sit out too long at room temp or whatever, and bam-o! 
beats on hood
I'll have to admit that I have been afraid of raw oysters ever since the wife of one of my husband's colleagues died after eating raw oysters at a restaurant on the South Carolina coast. She was pregnant. The baby survived, she didn't, and her husband was left with their first child to raise without its mother.
Skunky
OMG! No wonder they put those warnings right on the menu. I learned something today.[/QUOTE]
I suspect the notice is intended less as a public health measure and more of a CYA when the lawyers show-up after somebody eats raw shellfish, gets sick and sues.
I suspect the notice is intended less as a public health measure and more of a CYA when the lawyers show-up after somebody eats raw shellfish, gets sick and sues.
Skunky
I'll have to admit that I have been afraid of raw oysters ever since the wife of one of my husband's colleagues died after eating raw oysters at a restaurant on the South Carolina coast. She was pregnant. The baby survived, she didn't, and her husband was left with their first child to raise without its mother.
I betcha a dozen raw that was hepatitis E! It is really an odd bug...it is literally an obstetrical emergency. It 'picks on' pregnant women. Pregnant ladies should NEVER eat raw meat of any sort!
beats on hood
I betcha a dozen raw that was hepatitis E! It is really an odd bug...it is literally an obstetrical emergency. It 'picks on' pregnant women. Pregnant ladies should NEVER eat raw meat of any sort!
SoWal Expert
That's it, no more sushi for Steeleing1. :nono1:
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