Disney on the Move?

Can you fill us in on the rumors?

Kurt,

This is some of what I See. Remember it is all speculation and I have NO proof to back it up. Read these press releases. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070104/20070104005669.html?.v=1

http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...0_DISNEY-PARKS-CORRECTED.XML&rpc=66&type=qcna

They clearly say that Disney will be opening new Parks to be announces in 2007. Smaller Parks that will be located in areas Disney feels they can Make Money in and draw Turism from all over the World. probably High end markets preferred.
The new Airport is the first of its kind ( security )and the first one built in 20 years. St Joe has all the developable land around the Airport. But just to the north is 55,000 acres or 86 sq miles controlled by Northern Trust Co. I have heard rumors for years that Disney and Knight Ridder the owner of the land controlled by Northern Trust have had some type of option to buy. This Land is beautiful with the nicest lakes I have ever seen.

I was sent this, how can they print this.
http://a1realty.biz/land_p2.htm

I will post more later.

baypa.net search Northern Trust

This statement from A1 Realty seems a little interesting.

"The new Panama City Bay County International Airport just broke ground with 12,000 new employees"

I hear that the 6000 acres on the Bay Co side went to contract last week. I did not hear who with. Two access colverts were just installed at the corners of Hwy 20 and 77, maybe for timber removal but it just happened days ago.
Just like Sowal, this land is gorgous with white sand beaches and spring fed lakes. The land has great elevations with small hills and bluffs overlooking the lakes. We have No amusement Parks of any larger size for the 8+ million visitors we get in this area. Numerous Disney chat boards and boards like Sowal have run with rumor over the years. Surely others on this board have heard this rumor.,

One of the listing states:

"Disney has just purchased 55,000 acres between Panama City Beach and Bonifay and plans a 5-Village Development there".

The same one that said that the new airport has broken ground already.

No doubt that A1 Realty Co is unethical in printing this and I dont understand how they can do this. It does however line up with what I have heard over the years and we will soon see what happens. Here is a simular quote found on a Disney Board from 2 years ago. It can be found on other boards as well. True these rumors fly around other places like Texas NC ect. Click around on Baypa.net and look at the activity around Hwy 20 and 77. Creek 77 LLC, LAND0 HOLDINGS LLC, 20-20 HOLDINGS, LLC , Northern Trust, all with the same address ( 50 SOUTH LA SALLE ST.
#M-10;
CHICAGO, IL 60675 802 )

What better place to put a Minny Disney than right next to a new International Airport in the most beautiful part of Florida. Its Just a rumor but its one I think is true. Time will tell.

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Panhandle Property
I have heard through our local rumor mill, that Disney just purchased 55,000 acres in the Panhandle of Florida. I assume it would not be for a park because people pass through or w/i 150 miles of this area on the way to WDW. Has anyone but me heard anything about this? I just wonder if it could be another "Celebration!?"

Surely others on this board have heard this rumor.,

More than once, and I have posted on SoWal regarding it, seeing if anyone else could verify.

One of the listing states:

The same one that said that the new airport has broken ground already.

Sounds like the copy goes WAAAAAYYY beyond mere puffery...beyond deceit...hell, it's a total lie!


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What better place to put a Minny Disney than right next to a new International Airport in the most beautiful part of Florida. Its Just a rumor but its one I think is true. Time will tell.

One thing can be said for certain....if they put a Mini-Disney and an International Airport in the "most beautiful part of Florida" it won't be any longer.


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One thing can be said for certain....if they put a Mini-Disney and an International Airport in the "most beautiful part of Florida" it won't be any longer.


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Many people (and possibly the majority), consider beautiful to be wide expanses of green lawn, non-native palm trees, giant blue pools, manicured lobbies, soaring high-rises, sleek water craft, shiny limos, valet-perked restaurants with perfect hostesses, and yes, fast appreciating property near international airports and them parks.

Many people (and possibly the majority), consider beautiful to be wide expanses of green lawn, non-native palm trees, giant blue pools, manicured lobbies, soaring high-rises, sleek water craft, shiny limos, valet-perked restaurants with perfect hostesses, and yes, fast appreciating property near international airports and them parks.

Then count me in the minority....for the sake of nature, and the enjoyment of such by the average American and future generations.



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Many people (and possibly the majority), consider beautiful to be wide expanses of green lawn, non-native palm trees, giant blue pools, manicured lobbies, soaring high-rises, sleek water craft, shiny limos, valet-perked restaurants with perfect hostesses, and yes, fast appreciating property near international airports and them parks.

Please don't put me in that group. Disney begat Orlando, not vice versa, so please take a look at your possible future. Not pretty.

Please don't put me in that group. Disney begat Orlando, not vice versa, so please take a look at your possible future. Not pretty.

You are the expert here . However, we have to remember that 1-10/Hwy 79 is an hour away from SoWal. If the rumors are true, there may be some affect of SoWal, but I think it will be minimal because of the distance.

One thing can be said for certain....if they put a Mini-Disney and an International Airport in the "most beautiful part of Florida" it won't be any longer.


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Especially when long range planning for northwestern counties and cities have not prepared for it. Remember my Florida 2030 posting?

Sounds like the copy goes WAAAAAYYY beyond mere puffery...beyond deceit...hell, it's a total lie!


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How do you know it is not true?

One thing can be said for certain....if they put a Mini-Disney and an International Airport in the "most beautiful part of Florida" it won't be any longer.


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The rumors are miles away from 30-A. 40 miles to the site round trip. This would not affect us unless WE WENT there. So, will a new theme park hurt the area? Miracle Strip was sold and now foreclosed on. I have children and I would like to have some thing for them to do on weekends with me and the little women, my wonderful wife, that is fun. I have been going to the old Miracle Strip since 61. Shelly you say the "most beautiful part of Florida" is were a "Mini-Disney and an International Airport " will be. Has the beach been forgotten?

You are the expert here . However, we have to remember that 1-10/Hwy 79 is an hour away from SoWal. If the rumors are true, there may be some affect of SoWal, but I think it will be minimal because of the distance.

I'm sure nothing on the scale of the Tragic Kingdom will occur in your backyard, but be forewarned that Disney has not been a good neighbor to surrounding municipalities. They have their own quasi-governmental entity, Reedy Creek Improvement District, and that is as far Disney concerns itself in most cases. By the way, O'town used to be 45 minutes away from Walt's World....no longer, unless you count time stuck on I-4. Most of the change in the panhandle is likely to be of a nature that few will accurately predict. Isn't that the way things usually evolve???

I'm sure nothing on the scale of the Tragic Kingdom will occur in your backyard, but be forewarned that Disney has not been a good neighbor to surrounding municipalities. They have their own quasi-governmental entity, Reedy Creek Improvement District, and that is as far Disney concerns itself in most cases. By the way, O'town used to be 45 minutes away from Walt's World....no longer, unless you count time stuck on I-4. Most of the change in the panhandle is likely to be of a nature that few will accurately predict. Isn't that the way things usually evolve???

Most of the change in the panhandle is likely to be of a nature that few will accurately predict. Isn't that the way things usually evolve???

Correct.

The rumors are miles away from 30-A. 40 miles to the site round trip. This would not affect us unless WE WENT there.

Destin and Panama City Beach are also 40 miles round trip from SoWal, depending on the end from which one measures. ;-) Destin is already creeping this way. It is only a matter of time before North West FL will be one busy place. You can already forget the sleepiness of the sleepy little town of Freeport. The airport and animal theme park will drive more people this way. Maybe if we are lucky, people will begin to vacation at the rumored Disney theme park and never make it to the beach. (ah, but a dream)

Destine and Panama City Beach are also 40 miles round trip from SoWal, depending on the end from which one measures. ;-) Destine is already creeping this way. It is only a matter of time before North West FL will be one busy place. You can already forget the sleepiness of the sleepy little town of Freeport. The airport and animal theme park will drive more people this way. Maybe if we are lucky, people will begin to vacation at the rumored Disney theme park and never make it to the beach. (ah, but a dream)

Say lay fevee..

"I was sent this, how can they print this.
http://a1realty.biz/land_p2.htm "

First post from a regular lurker.

Been looking at this stuff for a while.

All th rumors I have heard from credible sources are verified in the PDF flie at the above link.

The Airport DSAP clears the way for massive and rapid development in the area. Like it or not folks, progress is here. JOE has a plan. They had a plan when they sold the paper mill in Pt. St. Joe and it still took 2 years to close one day, with no notice to employees. The employees were seriously displaced but there were retraining opportunities for former JOE millworkers (the money was there from an anonomous donor for work comp extention, just like the $$ for a new bridge in PC). Look at the Piggly Wiggly in PSJ. Right after the mill closed they up and built a new store. And the more amazing fact is that the day it opened it was to small.

Enough for background. The DSAP. It has all its environmental permits out of the way. The whole Dang thing. Any company that wants proximity to the airport inside the DSAP is 2 years at least ahead on opening up a new facility, whether it is big or small. A big company like FEDEX can be open for business the day the Airport terminal opens. They have lots of room to build the campus they want, where they want. No expressways, or homes or nothing to worry about or spend $$ on lawyers on. They can even start operations before, because they only need the runway to work. Same applies to UPS or the other satillite warehouses like Amazon or Ebay or a huge fulfillment center to suport the distribution potential.

JOE did not go to all the trouble of the DSAP innovation to be nice. THEY HAVE A PLAN. EVERY SQ FT of the DSAP. RIGHT NOW. It is in the bag. The day they do the ground breaking they could spend the balance of the day announcing the committed additional businesses coming to the area.

The Disney thing is relatively easy to figure out. They are a part of the DSAP and possibly in the Ebro area too. I do not think the Ebro site is Disney. Maybe some other tourist operation, but not Disney. A large 2000 acre "resort" type of operation. It will not compete with Disney World. It wil be for a different type of tourist. Probably in conjuction with the new PORT DISNEY that will be where the present PC PORT is now. The PC paper mill closes(read the first paragraph). The port operation moves to the mill site because it has so much toxic goo in the ground that you could not put a bed in that area. DISNEY takes over the PC PORT to become its major hub for cruises. A brand spankin' new airport to fly cruisers in from all over the world. A resort to bed em down & entertain 'em too. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

Unlike Orlando when Disney came to town there are develomental regulations to follow. I do not see a huge megaopolis. There will be trees and infrastructure to some degree. i.e. Freeport is shut down from further development til they get their infrastructure right.

Now a jump into the X-files
There is alreay a tunnel built on the airport site that will allow two semis to pass.
Disney will build a monorail from the new disney port to the airport to their resort to god know where else.
One is a good source rumor the other is an over active imagination.

Snoop

Underground! As I read, I was wondering how they would protect the tourists eyes from the areas around the old mill.

Folks, if you turn to your Bible, "The Green Empire - The St. Joe Company and the Remaking of Florida's Panhandle",
page 7, last para., you can see how most of these "Disney" rumours started.

"The company's new focus was cemented in 1997, when its board of directors brought on Disney executive and former Arvida developer Peter Rummell as chief executive officer."

Ever since then Disney rumours have run rampant. So have Busch Gardens.

All of this is happening here in my backyard. There is a lot going on already. The local news has already spoke of mini-Disney 'day' parks, not full blown out Disney Worlds. The beach would still be the focus, but this would just be a short day trip.

Meanwhile its like 2004-2005 all over again up here in Washington County, property being sold right and left. Sunny Hills has seen been revitalized and there are at least three new developments going up on hwy 279.

I bought up here 11 years ago and complained about having to drive to civilization. I waited long enough, and civilization came to me.

When I moved to Seagrove in 1991 to get away from Fort Walton/Destin, there was not much there. Our biggest scandal was Seagrove Cottages putting up a neon sign! Looked like a spaceship at night.

Now I've moved up here to get away from Seagrove and progress followed me up here as well. I guess if you want to know where to invest, just follow me! Next stop, Oregon.:roll:

has anyone clicked on the email link at the top of a1's page and questioned the actuality od the airport groundbreaking? it would be interesting to see their response.

has anyone clicked on the email link at the top of a1's page and questioned the actuality od the airport groundbreaking? it would be interesting to see their response.

i e-mailed them 2 days ago, asking for some substantiation, but so far haven't gotten a response ... but i will post it here if i do