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There's a new Seaside getting built in NY

Dabell avatar
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Them same people that developed Seaside in FL is now developing a New town in Up State NY. Click here: Warwick Grove, NY ? traditional neighborhood development for active adults
www.warwick-grove.com

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Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#3
They are staying busy:


http://www.newtownatstcharles.com


But to (sorta) quote a little ole lady
who used to pitch burgers on the tube,

"Where's the beach ??"

Good one! The original is all I need!
bsmart avatar
brain
#4
Them same people that developed Seaside in FL is now developing a New town in Up State NY. Click here: Warwick Grove, NY ? traditional neighborhood development for active adults
www.warwick-grove.com


They have numerous developments all over the U.S. and some in the Carribbean.
Dabell avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#5
They have numerous developments all over the U.S. and some in the Carribbean.
Oh do they? can you post them here???????
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#6
They are also building a new golf development, which includes around 4,000 acres, in Freeport at Owls Head Farms.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#7
SoWal developers have recently been sinking money into Central America for developments. The name "Panama" may soon have a new meaning to locals around here.
bsmart avatar
brain
#8
Oh do they? can you post them here???????


Sure! Here you go Dabell, its a neat site, actually I would love to work with Duany and Plater-Zyberk, I have read most of their research and writings and I agree with most of their planning practices.

http://www.dpz.com/projects.htm
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#9
Cheshire Village, which is being built in Black Mtn, NC, just east of Asheville, reminds me much of WaterColor, with a mtn flair. I have been there and taken the tour. Well done! I have thought about buying there, but the prices jumped way too much before I could get in.

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Cil avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10
bsmart
You have probably already seen this site, but just in case:
New Urbanism
and also:
Urban Land Institute

I love the look of New Urbanism. I especially love the idea of a walkable community. The only thing I worry about is the fact many of these developments seem to be a gentrified haven for the wealthy, but I understand the reality of capitalism and that NU cannot address every last aspect of our country's already existing social problems.
In Denver the old (closed) airforce base has been completely transformed into a new community, with a real town center and diverse, mixed-income housing. It looks like it is going to work, and this is very exciting.
I think I've already mentioned here that my husband will be planning affordable housing for St Joe.
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#11
They must have little building tentacles eveywhere- we are getting one of their developments too. Nobody can remember their company name, so everyone just calls them the "Seaside People." A few houses are up, but I haven't been over there yet- I'm still mourning the loss of one of the last big beautiful old farms in the county (I'm more into infill).
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#12
OH jdarg....cutest avatar yet!!!

I love the community thing as well. HMM and I have begun to think of our next move in Dallas and we keep thinking high rise (NO maintenance), but really what we are looking for is what we have here. Get out and WALK places, ride your bike places! It's good for you (NYC like) and you get to meet so many interesting people! You can probably tell that meeting people is one of my hobbies!
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brain
#13
Sueshore, I love to walk and bike places too--its all I did in Athens at UGA, I never had to get in my car for practically anything, except when I went home to mom and dad's house.
bsmart avatar
brain
#14
bsmart
You have probably already seen this site, but just in case:
New Urbanism
and also:
Urban Land Institute

I love the look of New Urbanism. I especially love the idea of a walkable community. The only thing I worry about is the fact many of these developments seem to be a gentrified haven for the wealthy, but I understand the reality of capitalism and that NU cannot address every last aspect of our country's already existing social problems.
In Denver the old (closed) airforce base has been completely transformed into a new community, with a real town center and diverse, mixed-income housing. It looks like it is going to work, and this is very exciting.
I think I've already mentioned here that my husband will be planning affordable housing for St Joe.

Same here. I like the idea of the need for defining natural barriers as a design principle, so that the community maintains a consistent and contained pattern of development--antisprawl. Seaside's is of course the GOM and to a lesser extent the conservation areas along the northern side of the the town.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#15
Sueshore, I love to walk and bike places too--its all I did in Athens at UGA, I never had to get in my car for practically anything, except when I went home to mom and dad's house.

I think I told you my daughter is seriously thinking of graduate school at UGA. She is planning a trip with her girlfriend that is looking at med school at Emory. I bet she falls in love with Athens!
Sheila avatar
SoWal Insider
#16
I think I told you my daughter is seriously thinking of graduate school at UGA. She is planning a trip with her girlfriend that is looking at med school at Emory. I bet she falls in love with Athens!

My hometown.:wub:
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#17
My hometown.:wub:

Another reason I love you!
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#18
Them same people that developed Seaside in FL is now developing a New town in Up State NY. Click here: Warwick Grove, NY ? traditional neighborhood development for active adults
www.warwick-grove.com


Won't their NY sales pitch conflict with Florida's sales pitch that every single "baby boomer" in creation will be FLOCKING to Florida to live out their golden years?
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Christini Zambini
#19
DPZ is the planner for these communities, but they are NOT the developers. Each of these projects is owned by different, totally independent companies. Seaside is not developing in New York, but DPZ is working in other areas of the county.

DPZ is the pioneer of New Urbanism, but they are not developers. They are a firm that specializes in New Urban Planning and Architecture. Therefore, they are not the builders, developers, nor the money behind these different projects. The developers pay DPZ to plan their developments.

Just wanted to set everyone straight. There is no relationship between all these different projects except that they are planned by DPZ.

Shelly, as for marketing, if you were really as informed as you think you are, you'd know that one development has nothing to do with the other. DPZ does not market the developments they plan. The developers do the marketing--but a great way to market a project is to have it be a DPZ planned development.

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margarita brocolia
#20
CCK ! WOOT! :cool: Thanks for the info!
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#21
That's my CCK! Thanks for the GOOD info!
Cil avatar
Beach Fanatic
#22
DPZ is the planner for these communities, but they are NOT the developers. Each of these projects is owned by different, totally independent companies...--but a great way to market a project is to have it be a DPZ planned development.
Yikes, I (mistakenly) assumed people already knew this.
Being the architect/planner is very different from being the money.
They are inter-connected but certainly not interchangeable.
Thanks for the clarification, CCK.
SHELLY
Not everyone wants to get away from winter.
One of the fast-growing retirement cities in America is in, of all places, Ft Collins, Colorado. It is indeed a very nice town.
Go West, Not So Young Man
Because of its small-town feel and rich culture, the city consistently makes top 10 lists of places to retire. Which may explain why its over-65 population grew by 35 percent and its near-retiree population more than doubled during the '90s...
To me, the most important aspect is not creating a neo-traditional town, but simply building a good place to live.
Seaside and Rosemary Beach are in the link below:
List of New Urbanist communities
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#23
SHELLY
Not everyone wants to get away from winter.
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Agree...just my editorial on realtor "baby boomer" hyperbole.
Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#24
Not everyone wants to get away from winter.
One of the fast-growing retirement cities in America is in, of all places, Ft Collins, Colorado. It is indeed a very nice town.
Go West, Not So Young Man
Because of its small-town feel and rich culture, the city consistently makes top 10 lists of places to retire. Which may explain why its over-65 population grew by 35 percent and its near-retiree population more than doubled during the '90s...
To me, the most important aspect is not creating a neo-traditional town, but simply building a good place to live.
Seaside and Rosemary Beach are in the link below:
List of New Urbanist communities

CIL,

We moved to Ft. Collins, CO in 1993 with the intention of staying there if we ended up liking it. We loved it! This was before we were aware it was becoming a desired retirement community. I can see why it is.

Reorganization of USDA brought us to TX kicking and screaming. It's been fine here (summers sorta stink - we go to FL beaches to cool off! Ha! BUT the people here in TX are great, and the rest of the year is nice.)

To a certain extent you can make wherever you live desirable if you choose. As far as the Gulf Coast, we are so anxious to reach a time we can be there. To us having some slighter hint of seasons without the snow is a plus because we like the seasonal changes without the "cabin fever" we sometimes experienced growing up in Illinois.

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Cil avatar
Beach Fanatic
#25
Rita
Very cool! I went to CSU for a couple years, always loved "The Fort," as we called it back in the 70's, and our older son graduated from CSU.
I certainly know what you mean about enjoying a taste of winter without having to go into hibernation. Colorado does tend to have very 'open' winters, but I am so looking forward to a Florida winter--yes, hurricanes are always an issue in summer, but at least I won't be looking over my shoulder for snow from September through May. I do not intend to drive on black ice ever again.

SHELLY
I completely understand. ;-)
Beach Lover
#26
The Hudson Valley area is a huge area for NYC second homes now (I live in upstate NY near this area). While its a really wonderful area for organic farming (the produce and organic meats are bought by the best NYC restaurants), I find the new urbanism a rather amusing idea for these former farm towns. But at least the concept of interacting with your neighbors is a good one, even if the real estate prices and sky-high real estate taxes are forcing some of them to leave. But the roads in and out are windy, two lane highways that get slippery with leaves in the fall, and esp in the winter. (and they're very dangerous in bad weather.) But the weather makes it really difficult--Its kinda hard to be "neighborly" sitting on a front porch when its snowing hard and/or the temp is near zero. The only thing to do is to hurry inside and huddle around the fireplace with something hot or alcoholic or both!
Give me the real Seaside at the beach any time.....

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