"Steak" sauce

Did he have a tatoo on his forehead that read 'RUBE'? I bet that sucker was well done, too:roll:

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!! Steak Sauce

When Mr. IBD and I waited tables, long ago, we always could tell the type of tip we were getting when customers ordered.....

~Well done prime rib,
~no au juis (sp?)( b/c they thought it was undercooked),
~had some sort of steak sauce all over their steak
~a salad with 1000 island dressing. (sorry Skunky, I know you love it);-)


DISCLAIMER.....This is all from my observations of waiting tables many many many Friday and Saturday nights in Dothan Alabama. Please do not jump on me b/c you think I am saying if you use steak sauce, like your steak well done or if you like 1000 island dressing that you are a bad tipper. hmmmmmmm, did I cover everything (EXCEPT MY STEAK THAT IS )


I for one can not understand why a person would order a nice steak in a nice steak house and cover the flavor of the beef. If they want to do that go to Golden Corrals all you can eat steak on Friday nights...

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!! Steak Sauce

When Mr. IBD and I waited tables, long ago, we always could tell the type of tip we were getting when customers ordered.....

~Well done prime rib,
~no au juis (sp?)( b/c they thought it was undercooked),
~had some sort of steak sauce all over their steak
~a salad with 1000 island dressing. (sorry Skunky, I know you love it);-)


DISCLAIMER.....This is all from my observations of waiting tables many many many Friday and Saturday nights in Dothan Alabama. Please do not jump on me b/c you think I am saying if you use steak sauce, like your steak well done or if you like 1000 island dressing that you are a bad tipper. hmmmmmmm, did I cover everything (EXCEPT MY STEAK THAT IS )


I for one can not understand why a person would order a nice steak in a nice steak house and cover the flavor of the beef. If they want to do that go to Golden Corrals all you can eat steak on Friday nights...

I am completely offended. I know somebody that knows somebody who has an aunt that likes steak sauce. :roll: You are just being a great big meanie.

(Isn't it sad that you feel you have to post a disclaimer on everything these days?)

I read somewhere that A-1 is "in" again.

I am completely offended. I know somebody that knows somebody who has an aunt that likes steak sauce. :roll: You are just being a great big meanie.

(Isn't it sad that you feel you have to post a disclaimer on everything these days?)

Yes, it is sad. Some people just get so offended....

i use heinz 57 at the waffle house.

I like medium well. But I live outside the city limits and I drove a pickup truck for a long time. I can also change my own oil and roof my own house. All this to say that if I have the money to buy a steak at the end of a long day, I don't want it to bleed on me.

The only time I use A-1 is when my little nephew Chesley tells me that I HAVE to try it on my chicken strips or pork chop or potato salad or whatever we're eating. He likes it like most kids like ketchup.

I like steak sauce on good steaks, though my idea of steak sauce is a demi glaze, not A-1.

I like steak sauce on good steaks, though my idea of steak sauce is a demi glaze, not A-1.

I'm even less cultured than I thought. I don't even know what that is, except that it's some sort of "half" glaze?

I'm even less cultured than I thought. I don't even know what that is, except that it's some sort of "half" glaze?

It is a reduction of Veal Stock plus a little bit.
This will give you a better understanding:
One of the great classic French sauces, demi-glace is a rich brown sauce that is itself a base for many other sauces. Making it is not exactly a walk in the park, for it is a combination of an Espagnole or brown sauce, beef or veal stock, and Madeira or sherry, which is reduced by half.

So the first order of business is the Espagnole sauce. A couple of carrots, celery and onions are chopped into a mirepoix, and saut?ed in butter until the onions are golden brown. Add 2 tablespoons tomato paste and continue cooking gently. Make a brown roux over low heat in a heavy pan with 1 cup of butter and 1 cup of flour. When the roux is a hazelnut color, add 6 cups hot stock, and whisk together. Add the vegetables, as well as a bay leaf, a little thyme and some parsley stems. Simmer the mixture for 2 to 3 hours, skimming off the scum that rises to the surface. Strain it through a fine strainer, and press the mirepoix gently to extract their juices. (For step-by-step instructions, follow this Espagnole sauce recipe).

Then, for the demi-glace, add an equal amount of beef or veal stock, bring it to a boil, and simmer until the sauce is reduced by half, again skimming the surface as necessary. Off the heat, add 2 tablespoons Madeira. The sauce can be kept in the refrigerator for a week or frozen for 6 to 8 months.

Having said that, these sauces are seldom made any more, even in restaurants. The more common alternative is Jus Li?, a stock quickly thickened with cornstarch, potato starch, or arrowroot. (Heat 3-1/2 cups of stock to the boil. Mix 5 teaspoons of starch with 1/2 cup of cold stock, and mix it into the simmering stock. Simmer the mixture until thickened and clear.) The quality of your stock is what will make your jus li? work or not. That is also true of the traditional sauces, but it has more to hide behind in the demi-glace.

If you're looking for the middle ground, here is another demi-glace recipe — an alternative that falls somewhere between the traditional sauce and the quick-and-dirty jus li?.

...this is getting saucey!!!

It is a reduction of Veal Stock.

Maybe I'm more cultured than I thought. As much as I love meat, I can't handle eating babies--veal, lamb...

...where's the EWWW smiley?

I'm even less cultured than I thought. I don't even know what that is, except that it's some sort of "half" glaze?

Brown stock that has been reduced to make a sauce. tasty. I keep some cubed in the freezer for adding flavor to dishes. Oops didn't see the answer up there already, and very well explained. Don't worry about eating the veal, stock is made from the bones--someone else ate the meat--probably doesn't help though.

Brown stock that has been reduced to make a sauce. tasty. I keep some cubed the freezer for adding flavor to dishes.

Yeah it sucks if they make it into a margarita by mistake. Be careful fixing cocktails!!

It is a reduction of Veal Stock plus a little bit.
This will give you a better understanding:
One of the great classic French sauces, demi-glace is a rich brown sauce that is itself a base for many other sauces. Making it is not exactly a walk in the park, for it is a combination of an Espagnole or brown sauce, beef or veal stock, and Madeira or sherry, which is reduced by half.

So the first order of business is the Espagnole sauce. A couple of carrots, celery and onions are chopped into a mirepoix, and saut?ed in butter until the onions are golden brown. Add 2 tablespoons tomato paste and continue cooking gently. Make a brown roux over low heat in a heavy pan with 1 cup of butter and 1 cup of flour. When the roux is a hazelnut color, add 6 cups hot stock, and whisk together. Add the vegetables, as well as a bay leaf, a little thyme and some parsley stems. Simmer the mixture for 2 to 3 hours, skimming off the scum that rises to the surface. Strain it through a fine strainer, and press the mirepoix gently to extract their juices. (For step-by-step instructions, follow this Espagnole sauce recipe).

Then, for the demi-glace, add an equal amount of beef or veal stock, bring it to a boil, and simmer until the sauce is reduced by half, again skimming the surface as necessary. Off the heat, add 2 tablespoons Madeira. The sauce can be kept in the refrigerator for a week or frozen for 6 to 8 months.

Having said that, these sauces are seldom made any more, even in restaurants. The more common alternative is Jus Li?, a stock quickly thickened with cornstarch, potato starch, or arrowroot. (Heat 3-1/2 cups of stock to the boil. Mix 5 teaspoons of starch with 1/2 cup of cold stock, and mix it into the simmering stock. Simmer the mixture until thickened and clear.) The quality of your stock is what will make your jus li? work or not. That is also true of the traditional sauces, but it has more to hide behind in the demi-glace.

If you're looking for the middle ground, here is another demi-glace recipe ? an alternative that falls somewhere between the traditional sauce and the quick-and-dirty jus li?.

Never mind my last post. I don't know what the heck half that stuff is, and even though I can install irrigation or hang a ceiling fan I'm sure that I would make a mess of your recipe. That said, it sounds amazing.

Thanks a lot, SJ. I just started running again tonight, and just gained 5 pounds reading your post!;-)

Thanks a lot, SJ. I just started running again tonight, and just gained 5 pounds reading your post!;-)

You can thank those damn French chefs.

You can thank those damn French chefs.

AND FRENCH WOMEN ARE STILL SKINNY! I hate 'em. I'm going to have half a stick of celery for supper and pout...

AND FRENCH WOMEN ARE STILL SKINNY! I hate 'em. I'm going to have half a stick of celery for supper and pout...

They must be eating the food of the bloody English.

You can thank those damn French chefs.

I am going by Fabrice tomorrow and tell them to lock the door when they see me coming. I am feeling a new habit is forming, centered around bread and aioli.:shock:

I am going by Fabrice tomorrow and tell them to lock the door when they see me coming. I am feeling a new habit is forming, centered around bread and aioli.:shock:

I really dislike mayonnaise, but Fabrice's aioli is incredibly delicious on a sandwich.

They must be eating the food of the bloody English.

No kidding. Who in the @#$% came up with the idea of meat-flavored crisps/chips? Chicken, beef and prawn. (The kids told me that the prawn-flavored ones were actually edible.) I love potato chips, but just the smell of those things gagged me. The cafeteria at the University of Edinburgh actually had haggis for breakfast. Thank GAWD they had good chocolate, at least.

I am going by Fabrice tomorrow and tell them to lock the door when they see me coming. I am feeling a new habit is forming, centered around bread and aioli.:shock:

I really dislike mayonnaise, but Fabrice's aioli is incredibly delicious on a sandwich.

I'm going to have to run a lot in the next 3 weeks just to break even. In just about 48 hours I'm wanting to hit:

• a brunch, which will feature some amazing food
• the Soiree (that is a food event, I'm guessing?)
• Stinky's
• D & K
• Fabrice

Maybe I'll just have to press my nose against the windows at Fabrice. (And still gain 5 pounds!)

I adore A-1 on my meat loaf. Instant mashed potatoes are also a "must."

I'm going to have to run a lot in the next 3 weeks just to break even. In just about 48 hours I'm wanting to hit:

• a brunch, which will feature some amazing food
• the Soiree (that is a food event, I'm guessing?)
• Stinky's
• D & K
• Fabrice

Maybe I'll just have to press my nose against the windows at Fabrice. (And still gain 5 pounds!)

NH, we have the same plan. However, mine does not include any sort of running. Unless it's into Fabrice for one more buttery concoction.